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whollybraille's avatar

My best advice, if a loved one seems to have died, wait at least 30 minutes after the heart has stopped. That's enough time for the brain to be deprived of oxygen. Then, if there is any chance the person could be revived, they'll be truly brain dead - the higher brain functions. If they are still alive and the medics start to cut them up, they won't feel it. That's what I've learned about this. There are other signs of death too, after several hours. FYI, what started the scheme for organ donation was the environmental/recycling movement back in the 1960s. The moneyed class could care less about the environment. They knew what a cash cow this recycling of body parts would become.

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Krissy's avatar

Please let your family know your wishes because a questionnaire must be filled out in order to go through with the donation. If need be lie, tell them they had syphilis HIV aids and anything else you can think of.

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Krissy's avatar

I will tell you that I worked in the Oregon transplant industry for 10 years and I have repented because I was lied to about everything I was taught. I would never take an organ because if it’s my time to go, I will go. Stay clear of this they are lying about brain death

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Grace Joubarne's avatar

There is nothing like conventional medicine to find ways to murder people and call it 'compassionate' care.

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Crixcyon's avatar

Never really thought about this. But just another example of the complete butchery health care really is...right up until you are really dead.

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AwakeRedPilled's avatar

Yep - that’s why I am no longer a donor on my drivers, and I make sure i tell them that when entering the hospital ON THE PAPERWORK.

Sad - but that’s the NEW WORLD we live in.

If someone needs a kidney, then offer to donate if it’s in your heart. But don’t allow the hospital to be in charge and make sure you have signed the necessary paperwork for someone to FULLy represent you like a spouse or sibling you trust when you are in ICU or entering hospital.

Get it notarized and witnessed too. And always give the hospital one on entering and the attending Dr and nurse.

best to get it done BEFORE you ever enter. You can usually upload it onto their portal and have it on record. BUT ALWAYS take it in as well and hand them out to each person attending to you so no excuses.

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Toddy's avatar

Thanks very much for the LIFE saving.info. !!!

Anybody know how to put on Drivers Licence. And/or Living will. Or on POA. "Resuscitate". Must " Make every effort to.keep alive and yes Resuscitate."

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PJ's avatar

Unfortunately I think old hospital patients are deemed ‘useless eaters’ to quote an infamous person. Believe the medical and nursing schools are training students to not devote resources to those diagnoses for which they don’t have a medical corporation answer.

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Chelie's avatar

I took "organ donor off my list and have never been convinced that brain death can be determined 100%. There are too many factors that leave doubt. Many times it comes down to the devastated family members at the bedside of an unresponsive, ventilated patient who are told there is no hope for recovery. The Company I'm familiar with is Lifelink, Circles their wagons until the time is right to approach the family. Convincing the family that this is a process that will allow their loved one to live though body of another while saving their life. It was this behavior that gave me different perspective as a nurse and a family member who was in his final stages of life. At beame obvious that they were playing God. I know longer convinced this would be God's will.

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Wilma's avatar

I have always thought that signing up to be an organ donor was very risky! It's sort of like an invitation to anyone who wants organs!

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AwakeRedPilled's avatar

And it’s BIG business. LOTS of money involved.

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Syd (is not my real name)'s avatar

No words..on this one….

…..just….no words.

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Tracy Kolenchuk's avatar

Cause of death is also - often - a lie. If someone is an organ donor, what is listed as the cause of the death? Is it 'organ donation' a cause of death? Was the attending surgeon the cause of death? Or are those patients listed as deaths caused by "whatever" caused the "brain death."

We saw with COVID many cases where "cause of death" is nonsense. Medicine, or medical treatments, or especially medical failures are rarely the cause of death. Of course, it's complicated. Every cause has a cause. Every cause of a cause has a cause. We have no scientific definition of death, and no science of "cause of death." Cause of death is generally an doctor's opinion, nothing more.

to your health, tracy

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rachel's avatar

Thanks. There are some movies about organ harvesting worth watching. One had

Audrey Tatou (I believe) in it. Some groups take homeless humans off the streets.

There is a belief that the Chinese arrest Falun Gong peaceful members and while

they are alive, take their organs. What a horrid way to treat someone, yet the humans

receiving their organs are getting that torturous energy.

Organ selling is BIGBUSINE$$ and profitable.

God bless the innocent who are abused. This stuff is demonic. Love to everyone.

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AwakeRedPilled's avatar

Yes, Epoch Times claims that is a fact. And a British human rights group exposed it too.

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Truth Hunter's avatar

Still kicking and taking out your body parts is the China no right here in USA INC always trying to make more money of us!

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Elephile's avatar

Wow! "Loss of personhood" is very subjective. When my mother was in the very early stages of dementia, when she could still read and write but it was a struggle, when she could play the piano and accompany others singing, and when she was relating to people (as she still is): the person who had taken power of attorney said she wasn't a person anymore. (I fought but failed to get a court to take away his powers over her.)

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Grace Joubarne's avatar

Another tyrannt self-identifying as 'God'.

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AwakeRedPilled's avatar

So sorry…awful for you to be so helpless to help her.

And now in Canada they are encouraging assisted SUICIDE if you are depressed… not even dying!!

I wonder if they “encourage” these poor souls to sign away their organs too.

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Grace Joubarne's avatar

Yep, every time. That was the purpose of introducing MAiD (medical assistance in dying). The original pretext was to offer compassionate 'healthcare', but soon enough it was to get access to healthy people who simply needed decent accommodations for their disabilities. That was the goal in the first place.

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Toddy's avatar

Oh ..im glad you tried."as she still is"?? So you still have her? I hope you keep.trying. please Find a better lawyer.

praying you can help her. 🙏

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Truth Hunter's avatar

That’s why you let your family die at home with love ones not Evil demons wanting their parts! God will take care of them!

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Elephile's avatar

Thank you.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Thank you Dr. Byrne .

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Seems to be Mzlizzi 😢. Very sad and cruel world we live in .

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JB808's avatar

It seems those who ply their trade within the allopathic, Big Medico Complex are constricted by a corrupt system that was not created to cure people or contribute to their overall health and wellness, but rather to the wealth of those who created it. Doctors who work within this system have betrayed their hippocratic oath and sold their souls to the psychopaths who run the world. This article adds a whole new ghoulish layer to the indignities we suffer at the hands of these mad scientists. I had to go through the whole explanation, when the love of my life was on life support after a motorcycle accident and it made no sense to me. Now I know it's not supposed to make sense to a normal human being.

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AwakeRedPilled's avatar

Surgeons are still necessary . Most MD’s however are just writing scripts ie working for BIG PHARMA, and never curing the patient or getting to the root of the problem.

FUNCTIONAL MD’s are a better option.

Medicine should Never have been allowed to become FOR PROFIT like it has especially the Health “Care” system.

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