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This is not a rational debate among competent, civilized adults. The old saying, don't confuse them with the facts, their minds are made up, definitely applies here, and in any situation where hysteria prevails. Since the prevailing hysteria is intersecting with rising tyranny around the world, the solution won't come from debate, only from defiance. Those who hope for a calmer future need to be prepared for a less calm present -- probably much less.

Eugyppius posted an excellent explanation this week on why we are beyond rational discussion. It's always important to learn about our adversaries.

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