Everyone knows you don't give IVM to pregnant women, for whom one could use HCQ+zinc+D3+K2 prophylaxis to ensure they won't need IVM during these 9 months. In all other respects, IVM is a very safe medication.
I have recently read substacks along this line. Sage Hana has said that the big push of Ivermectin by certain companies was stage 2 of the genocide; part of the plan.
But all the historic evidence of its effectiveness against things like cancer? What are we to make of this? Just this week I was gifted a backup supply of Ivermectin from my sister who gets it for her husband who is using it for cancer treatment.
She also gave me some HCQ and Azithromycin for my emergency kit. What about those?
No way would I ever trust being admitted to a hospital again with any sort of respiratory infection. Figure they would try to inject me with Veklury, which is just the trade name for Remdesivir, and tell me it was perfectly safe.
At this point, being past child bearing age, I would definitely take IVM, HCQ, and/or Azithromycin.
Thank you Kathleen. I am in complete agreement about hospitals, I will NEVER allow myself to be admitted to one for anything.
My sister was here this past week for the funeral of one of our first cousins, who died in the hospital after a recommended heart stint surgery. She was too trusting.
"HCQ is the gun, ZINC is the bullet," Dr. Zev Zelenko. And you need Azithromyicin too, Zithromax by brand name, added to the cocktail. Many "antibiotics" also have antiviral effects, despite the BS we are fed, daily, & post viral pneumonia bacterial infections are COMMON.
Ivermectin is something I'd only use under certain circumstances, like virtually all pharmaceuticals, but it sure helped A LOT of people during Covid, by all the reports I heard, & there were hundreds plus thousands in other countries.
And in combo with Fenbendazole appears to be knocking out cancers, but that information is only anecdotal to me.
However, it deserves to be looked into, for certain. The drugs Fenbendazole & Menbendazole do seem to have real research & true results in many cancers though!
If you are going to the tropics the antimalarial would be good to have as well as a full bed net pretreated with one of the anti mosquito repellents as long as it isn't DEET. As for the anti bacterial most are target specific as I recall.
As with all drugs take care for interactions when taken or administered at the same time. Many drugs also have longer shelf lives than noted on an Rx.
I carry an epipen due to having anaphylaxis years ago. It really pissed me off when in late 2022 early 2023 there was a leaked set of emails conversations between the USA and GB medical authorities debating on the basis of the Pfizer trials and heightened anaphylaxis that persons who carry an epipen shouldn't take the COVID-19 shots.
Paul Alexander promoted Sage Hana for a while and then she turned around and started attacking him. The only plausible genocide plan is to use vaccines trojan horsed with malicious additives, but it will take repeated attempts and repeated shots. Using repurposed medicines as an alternative will short circuit this plan. Doctors who used and pioneered ivermectin have been maliciously attacked by TPTB all across the world. Novavax was the temptation to lure in the so-called "antivax" people into getting their dose of spike protein. Not ivermectin. Watch China. Their vaccine wasn't too bad, relatively speaking (still not safe enough for my taste) but it also was quite ineffective, about as ineffective as flu shots. In certain countries where the Chinese vaccine was used instead of the mRNA one, there were still vaccine injuries, because certain rich people travelled abroad to get the more expensive mRNA vaccines, because if the white people use them, they must be good. Envy and greed can kill you, I guess. It would be interesting to map out the countries that did not use the mRNA shots, to get an idea who is being targetted for elimination.
There’s a difference between something you take constantly and something you take only when needed. Surely the body is rather more robust than to sustain permanent harm from a substance you take only when you have flu, or as an anti parasitic to prevent river blindness.
A followup to this thread - "Agent131711" came out with a stack, now asking Dr. Yeadon to call out vitamins and HCQ as "fertility reducing poisons". I am skeptical of that, and skeptical of whoever this Agent is.
Thank you all for the helpful and realistic replies here.
Covid vaccines switch off tumour protections P53 and till like receptors 7,8
If you think you can manage to outwit the devious intentions of those involved in GOF… think again.. switch back on P53 .. and interrupt those tumour pathways by using checkpoint therapy.
I don’t know who to trust anymore, but there are studies and personal accounts of how ivermectin has helped tremendously with not only parasites, but with other infectious diseases and cancer. I have a small farm and the stuff is miraculous with controlling mites and fleas and ticks. I suffer from chronic Lyme disease so I’m currently taking a 7day course, 5 days off, then another 7. I’m past childbearing age, so maybe I’m not as hesitant as I would have been 10 or so years ago, but that is the only study that is negative. Everything else I’ve seen has been positive.
I'm on your side, and this is what I say . . . What Dr. Yeadon says may be true but someone is going to have to tell me the story of how farmers and veterinarians never figured this out after all these years. For instance here's one science report: "It was concluded that repeated treatment with ivermectin at the recommended dosage of 200 micrograms/kg will not impair the reproductive potential of rams." I'm no expert but it is going to be awhile before all the pieces fit together when you add in this "reproductive damage."
I also feel like “they” would have been pushing this rather than keeping it as a viable solution if it’s so damaging to our reproductive systems. After all, if depopulation is the goal, what could be better? I suppose this could be their long game play to get those of us who are distrusting? I don’t know anymore.
Trust Jesus Christ. I just did a quick search, you can calm down now and take ivermectin as needed. But it is not juice, it is medicine: treat it as such.
Thanks. I’m not excited or needing to calm down, Im just reacting to this article. I respect Dr Yeadon immensely, but he’s not always right. Am I right about this? I don’t know, but I’m willing to take the risk.
Look into game theory and then you'll see why some recognise it as a tactic. Con artists use it all the time when gritting. It gives the illusion of choice, when really your directing a subset population to a particular choice. Right up there with my all time favorite- "nudge theory".😉
One piece of the puzzle is that, even IF ivermectin was helping with the killing agenda, the powers that be could not in a million years say ivermectin was a good thing. Why? Because, if there was an alternative to the "Emergency Use Authorization" of the mRNA jab, the FDA would not have been able to approve the EUA. They had to stamp out ivermectin to keep the illusion and "there was no other way" except the EUA.
The vaccine is a big payout. Ivermectin is in generic form and is one of the cheapest drugs on the market.
The vaccine will also bring them future profits down the line from more health issues.
Not sure if you believe this or not but the vaccine also contains nano communications and abilities to turn on or off genes and other things I forget.
If you don't believe this is possible the CEO of Pfizer did an interview around a year or so ago stating they got FDA approval for a drug you swallow and they can communicate with it and control your health.
Not saying this isn’t a real thing, as we get new info uncovered all the time now, but I do wonder if it’s more a result of long term use…since the people in the regions they regularly gave it to had to use it ongoing. Obviously for the bulk of original so called “high risk” plandemic patients were well past fertility age, so that side effect wouldn’t show up.
Seems it could very well be massive overdosing combined with extremely short range collection of data. The rabbits weren’t studied after the overdosing had time to get out of their systems. The equivalent dose for humans would be about 20 times the average recommended dose, & where is that occurring in the real world?
Please do check out the deeper dive into the studies being used for the claim. It’s worth considering all the information…or perhaps what’s missing.
Thanks very much for the link Karen. I cannot afford another subscription now, but glad for the link because I know Dr Lawrie is an appropriate scientist generally and put together the rolling meta review. I hope she will publish in this area more and freely and with CITATIONS please. I’m way past the stage and so many of us are - where a claim of expertise without reviewable citations is credible. It’s bad form and disservice from anyone with reputational worthy bias ability to make claims in arguments without EVIDENCE. It’s not like all the peer reviewed lit is virtuous — we know the shenanigans by the Med complex hooligans — but we cannot dispense with the literature. I do honor personal experience very much and the comments on this board and others regarding their experience. We need both. Dr Yeadon strikes me as a tragic figure and I pray for him. Perhaps his claim is factually correct, but the format of expression is bizarre for a man of science or anyone after 4th grade. So caught up in emotional terms, professing no writing, inpting the worst motives of those who still think the way he did before seeing the light and before he has researched, repeatedly saying he thought this or that without researching the idea — so many histrionic phrases. I am inclined to think this man who has had courage and appropriate science communication previously is at the effect of something DISORDERING. His writing is almost like a guy saying … I’m putting this in a bizarre manner so my audience won’t take me seriously. And I don’t take him seriously. I pray for him. May Dr Yeadon be brought swiftly beneath the wings of The Most High Creator of the Universe for protection and healing. 💜 May we find the truth and protect the fertility of the new generations. key questions for any drugs is whether they disrupt a pregnancy or fetal development — at what stage — to what extent—do they remodel organs or tissue significantly — duration of toxicity. Nice to have the broad suspect class biomarkers for detox stunting but better to have citations and much deeper basis for examining the duration of detox inhibition. A lot of people can be needlessly alarmed by claims that are decontextualized. Warnings need to be contextual or they just pile more stress onto young people that are already struggling.
Dr. Yeadon strikes me as one of the sanest, sincerest and most well-meaning "expert" voices on Substack. But his experiences over the past four years including the way his reputation has been trashed and and his failure—indeed our failure collectively—to reach and persuade significant numbers of our fellow humans of the gravity of the current situation we, and especially we in the West, find ourselves in, may have overstrained him. He may be reading more into this IVM thing than is actually there.
On the other hand, Mike may be substantially correct. He may have found evidence to back up his claims, evidence that most of us aren't aware of. But I for one can't take these claims seriously without strong evidence.
If he is correct about IVM being one more vector in the depopulation agenda, the implications would be that everybody who has been promoting it as a treatment is either a part of the op or else a prize fool. And that would include most of our medical "heroes" from Drs. Zelenko and Kory to Anderson, Chetty, Sucharit Bhakti, and Tess Lawrie, as well as the late-but-well-meaning Dr. John Campbell , who went from jab promoter to vax-skeptic and IVM promoter. It would also include Mike himself, who for a long time was very bullish on IVM. Here he is from 2021.
Excerpt: Ivermectin is one of the WHO’s ‘essential drugs’ which all countries should have access to. It’s very cheap as its patent has long expired; it’s one of the most-used drugs in world history; it’s extraordinarily safe; it is often life-saving against parasitic infections. It is also one of the best-established pharmaceutical treatments for Covid-19, showing benefit in every stage of the disease, in multiple independent clinical trials of varying quality. On January 3, 2021, Dr Tess Lawrie attempted to alert the Prime Minister to the potential of ivermectin. Her video here was pulled from YouTube within hours of posting, though it survives on Vimeo. The paper by the FLCCC group of US intensivists (whose survival rates for severe Covid-19 are best in class) that was the inspiration for Dr Lawrie’s work was accepted after extensive open peer review (including two career employees of the FDA) and ‘provisionally accepted’ by the ‘open science’ journal Frontiers in Pharmacology. The screenshot of the abstract tweeted by Clare Craig shown here attracted more than 100,000 views. Then, mysteriously, it was rejected and pulled by the Frontiers editor in chief. It is still here in cached form though the Ministry of Truth has been at work and placed it in a memory hole, so no trace survives on Frontiers’ own website.
Intended for a Special Issue on ‘repurposed drugs’ for Covid-19, various guest editors were so incensed at this behaviour that they resigned in protest. You can read their letter here. They concluded that ‘these unfortunate events constitute gross editorial misconduct by Frontiers.’ Fortunately this major paper is now published by the American Journal of Therapeutics and can be read in its final form here.
This nevertheless successfully delayed by nearly six months its circulation to leading public health bodies starting mid-November. A copy was sent to Sir Jeremy Farrar (boss of the Wellcome Trust and member of Sage) who passed it on to Professor Peter Horby (also on Sage), amongst others, on November 18, 2020. So the efficacy of ivermectin must be well known to the Government’s advisers, but they have done nothing about it. Likewise, the formal and rigorous meta-analysis performed by Dr Tess Lawrie’s team at the Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd has been communicated to Matt Hancock, but without reply.
I am telling you about this, because all that governments, their scientific advisers, big pharma (here’s Merck, who originally developed & marketed it) and regulatory agencies will tell you is that ivermectin doesn’t work in Covid-19. They are lying. I am inviting any of them to sue me, but they won’t, for I would win easily.
If ivermectin was more widely used, there’d be no need for vaccines.
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For reference, here is an official view from 2021 in which an FDA spokesperson, Dr. John Farley, was warning people away from IVM for COVID-19 prophylaxis and treatment on the grounds that it hadn't been tested in humans for regular use or in the doses needed to be effective. So Mike's current position seems to be quite close to the FDA's official position in 2021.
Ivermectin has saved lives of people I know, I don't think they care if it causes infertility when it's saving their life, it's also a great cancer cure along with Fenbendazole and other things. So I guess its up to the person, you either want to live or make sure you're not infertile when you die.
I just emailed a doctor who said there is no proof in 40 years Ivermectin causes infertility. Mike Yeadon is wrong and think about, Africans and East Indians have been using Ivermectin for years in their countries, theres no shortage of kids there.
He can't be bought, and I doubt he was threatened. Why threaten him after all this time? The IVM cat is well out of the bag now.
I think Mike is just giving his sincere opinion here because he's extremely concerned about this issue. He's had a Saul on the road to Damascus moment and feels the need to share his insights. Surely it's OK to disagree with his opinion without doubting his integrity?
Yep! There are plenty of theories about what is going on but I think Dr. Yeadon has been had. If there was a problem the people who have used it on race horses and farm animals for so many years would have figured it out. Maybe Dr. Pierre Kory will speak about this.
Relative to what? Respectfully, when you look at the fertility and birth rates (including "live" births), you will see that EVERY country has had declining births and fertility, in the last 30-40 years, and especially in the last 20yrs. Even more so in the last 4-5yrs. Yes, traditionally underdeveloped and developing countries have outstripped developed countries in births, hence why in the 1940s it was specifically focused on by the UN cronies. That's why they wanted to focus on women and education.😐🤔🤨 When women are educated and self reliant, financially independent, they may make different choices- especially since TV, social media, show different futures in different countries, and arranged marriages or mutilation practices. Likewise with the men. Look at the history of public health policy, especially around developing/underdeveloped nations.
Btw how did people survive malaria and parasites before Ivermectin came along?🤔🤨 #itsrhetorical #challengeurbeliefsystem #askwhatif #wearemany #wearememory #wewillnotforgive #mistakeswereNOTmade #getlocalised
Uh, yeah nah sorry, the birth rates and fertility rates were tanking in the developed countries and steadily reducing in the developing and undeveloped countries, long before the C19 shots got distributed. Most replacement rates in developed countries, like Australia, UK, USA, Canada, Japan, Sweden, etc, were at less than 3-
Technically 2.8, that's your minimum needed to maintain a country. In 2019, Australia's was at 2.1.🤔😐 Now I'd hazard a guess that it's 1.8 BTJMO 🤷♀️
You can look at data from all over the world, in all different countries with different development levels, same deal. So when we compare Africa's and India birth/fertility rates to other developed countries it's not apples and oranges. But compare each countries rates to itself since the 1940s, then you see the patterns. We have been systematically poisoned for a long time (by many things), but we just weren't dying fast enough. COVID was just the way to speed up the process to meet the milestones in the 2030-2050 agendas.😉 Ivermectin is just another tool in the population control toolbox.🤐
Don't you think if Ivermectin were causing birth rates to fall someone years ago would have said something, why now, its it because Mike Yeadon or Tim Truth came out and claimed it to be fact, I will never believe it so you can think what you want.
That's a very general question. But if you are thinking about Africa, basically in many cases they got sick, lived in miserable poverty, and died much earlier than their theoretical maximum lifespan.
My AI mate tells me: In the 1950s, the average life expectancy in Sub-Saharan Africa was roughly around 40 years. This was influenced by factors such as high infant mortality rates, infectious diseases, and limited access to healthcare.
As of recent estimates, life expectancy in Sub-Saharan Africa has increased significantly and is now approximately 64 years. Improvements in healthcare, nutrition, and living standards have contributed to this rise, although it still varies widely between different countries in the region.
It was a generalised but actually rhetorical question, but I do appreciate you taking the time to answer anyway 😊
Id say access to clean water, went along way to increasing lifespan. In Africa, they have been treating malaria, parasites, river blindness, and all the other stuff Ivermectin is used for, with Artemesia annua (wormwood), for at least a 2000yrs. In fact its been used to formulste the more recent antimalarial darling of the pharmaceutical market and won the 2015 Nobel prize.😉
I'm pretty sure we survived in African nations before 1975, when Ivermectin was discovered.😊
My own thinking on this is that some of us have survived since time immemorial living as hunter gatherers with none of the benefits of agriculture, industrialization, science and technology. I would argue that our ancestors must have all survived long enough to produce their descendants own the generations, because if just one of my countless ancestors hadn't done that, I wouldn't be here, and the same goes for each and every person alive today.
Given this amazing fact, should we then abandon all the benefits of agriculture, industrialization, science and technology, and go back to our original natural hunter-gather lifestyle?
You are welcome to imagine me saying this while sticking my chest out theatrically like a barrister or a good old-fashioned MP. I am taking the argument to extremes, of course. So please don't take me too seriously on the above.
But on the point you make about IVM verses traditional medicines for parasites, Wormwood (Artemisia absinthium) is toxic when taken in large amounts due to the presence of thujone. While small quantities may be safe for some uses (like traditional herbal remedies), excessive consumption can lead to nausea, vomiting, and neurological issues. Wikipedia states that "Thujone is reported to be toxic to brain, kidney, and liver cells and could cause convulsions if used in too high a dose." So it has definite issues.
I am not a specialist, but I assume that IVM has less side-effects, and is less toxic than wormwood overall, and it may also be more effective as an anti-parasitic. I may be wrong about this though. So for the time being I'll just sit on my chair with that sign saying "Ivermectin is safe and effective: prove me wrong."
Here is a quick reference for the parasites it is effective against. There are too many overlaps between how veterinarians treat animals and the same remedies go for humans so don't poof-poo this info because it is about horses.
Why then did Fauci and friends try to make the use of ivermectin and other medications illegal? If Ivermectin is so bad, why would someone that put Remdimisver (kills 56% of patients by destroying the kidneys) into all of the Covid patients not add a little ivermectin to help destroy humanity? Possibly because it works??? Why was it banned from hospitals if this has all been a set up? Could it be that some people have gone off the deep end? I’ve seen firsthand accounts of it taking someone from the edge of death to walking and talking and living again. If ivermectin makes us sterile please explain all the babies born in Africa where ivermectin is used on a bi-weekly basis. 🤷♂️
I usually agree with your assessments but I can’t help but feel that you have become scared of your own shadow and rightfully so in a lot of ways.
I gave my friend some ivermectin so he could treat his 86 year old mom undergoing cancer treatments ivermectin when she came down with Covid. Her husband was sick with it at the same time. He was hospitalized before his son could treat him with ivermectin. He died after suffering in the hospital for days on end. The cancer patient never had to go back to the doctor for Covid. I’m sticking with ivermectin as I have seen it work on multiple occasions. 🤷♂️
My thoughts, too. I'd like to see some population studies re. the African regions where IVM is used regularly, as it has for decades. Many (most? all?) African countries where IVM is used have been seeing population increases, yes? The stuff is used in Nigeria big time, and hit Africa in a big way in the 90's. Nigeria's population growth through the 90's until about 2012 was north of 2.5%, usually 2.7%. It dips after 2012 but is still 2.1%. I've linked the data below. Doesn't look like a region in decline caused by a toxic anti-fertility drug. Note in the graph below on rate of growth that the big dip in fertility rate is BEFORE IVM hits the stage. Of course, this graph does not account for birth rate, etc. just population growth. So take this as a pretty rough starting point!
There is also the impressive results out of Uttar Pradesh India, from early on in the "pandemic", from administering IVM to their entire population. Other Indian states also. Easily found online.
They used IVM zinc and one other product with great results. I live in WA State we got a letter on Facebook from our Governor about the dangers of IVM. The plan was not to have any cheap generic drugs work on the so called “ novel sars Covid 2
What about HCQ? Sixty thousand people were taking HCQ for lupus & rheumatoid arthritis in Northern Italy with zero deaths from Covid & 15 hospital trips with no ventilators.
Interesting, though why was it banned in pharmacies? I would not trust any drug by Pharma. Who's to say that sterility is not in all of them. Also, what percent of the population actually took it compared to the clot shot. Why sterilize when you can actually kill?
That may be a little extreme, it may not be money that’s the motivation. It may be life threats!
Certainly a possibility
Is this statement also applicable to Artemisia annua the herbal source of ivermectin?
Apparently Artemisia annua can be used as a contraceptive agent ...
Artemisia is a PGP inhibitor, but so are many common fruits, vegetables, herbs. The anti-malarial effects are entirely different mechanisms of action.
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Yes. Been saying that for months now. I expected for folks to say well those are rodent studies and not humans... ok.
Everyone knows you don't give IVM to pregnant women, for whom one could use HCQ+zinc+D3+K2 prophylaxis to ensure they won't need IVM during these 9 months. In all other respects, IVM is a very safe medication.
Thank you for that clarification.
read Yeadon's ivm articles linked in his substack article. Certainly does not sound safe. At all.
I have recently read substacks along this line. Sage Hana has said that the big push of Ivermectin by certain companies was stage 2 of the genocide; part of the plan.
But all the historic evidence of its effectiveness against things like cancer? What are we to make of this? Just this week I was gifted a backup supply of Ivermectin from my sister who gets it for her husband who is using it for cancer treatment.
She also gave me some HCQ and Azithromycin for my emergency kit. What about those?
Well, this is how I look at it.
No way would I ever trust being admitted to a hospital again with any sort of respiratory infection. Figure they would try to inject me with Veklury, which is just the trade name for Remdesivir, and tell me it was perfectly safe.
At this point, being past child bearing age, I would definitely take IVM, HCQ, and/or Azithromycin.
Thank you Kathleen. I am in complete agreement about hospitals, I will NEVER allow myself to be admitted to one for anything.
My sister was here this past week for the funeral of one of our first cousins, who died in the hospital after a recommended heart stint surgery. She was too trusting.
PS - I don't know whether she had taken the vaxx.
Just saw your answer after I posted my question.
Great minds think alike.
Did the deceased take the covid DeathVax?
"HCQ is the gun, ZINC is the bullet," Dr. Zev Zelenko. And you need Azithromyicin too, Zithromax by brand name, added to the cocktail. Many "antibiotics" also have antiviral effects, despite the BS we are fed, daily, & post viral pneumonia bacterial infections are COMMON.
Ivermectin is something I'd only use under certain circumstances, like virtually all pharmaceuticals, but it sure helped A LOT of people during Covid, by all the reports I heard, & there were hundreds plus thousands in other countries.
And in combo with Fenbendazole appears to be knocking out cancers, but that information is only anecdotal to me.
However, it deserves to be looked into, for certain. The drugs Fenbendazole & Menbendazole do seem to have real research & true results in many cancers though!
Good Luck. It's a crazy world out there.
If you are going to the tropics the antimalarial would be good to have as well as a full bed net pretreated with one of the anti mosquito repellents as long as it isn't DEET. As for the anti bacterial most are target specific as I recall.
As with all drugs take care for interactions when taken or administered at the same time. Many drugs also have longer shelf lives than noted on an Rx.
Any drugs or natural medicines you keep should also have a folio of this information available from most pharmacists and on line. https://www.drugs.com/azithromycin.html#side-effects
I carry an epipen due to having anaphylaxis years ago. It really pissed me off when in late 2022 early 2023 there was a leaked set of emails conversations between the USA and GB medical authorities debating on the basis of the Pfizer trials and heightened anaphylaxis that persons who carry an epipen shouldn't take the COVID-19 shots.
Paul Alexander promoted Sage Hana for a while and then she turned around and started attacking him. The only plausible genocide plan is to use vaccines trojan horsed with malicious additives, but it will take repeated attempts and repeated shots. Using repurposed medicines as an alternative will short circuit this plan. Doctors who used and pioneered ivermectin have been maliciously attacked by TPTB all across the world. Novavax was the temptation to lure in the so-called "antivax" people into getting their dose of spike protein. Not ivermectin. Watch China. Their vaccine wasn't too bad, relatively speaking (still not safe enough for my taste) but it also was quite ineffective, about as ineffective as flu shots. In certain countries where the Chinese vaccine was used instead of the mRNA one, there were still vaccine injuries, because certain rich people travelled abroad to get the more expensive mRNA vaccines, because if the white people use them, they must be good. Envy and greed can kill you, I guess. It would be interesting to map out the countries that did not use the mRNA shots, to get an idea who is being targetted for elimination.
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Well Dave, I suppose it depends on whether or not you are trying to get pregnant or trying to avoid it.
There’s a difference between something you take constantly and something you take only when needed. Surely the body is rather more robust than to sustain permanent harm from a substance you take only when you have flu, or as an anti parasitic to prevent river blindness.
Tess Lawrie has a substack post on this subject.
A followup to this thread - "Agent131711" came out with a stack, now asking Dr. Yeadon to call out vitamins and HCQ as "fertility reducing poisons". I am skeptical of that, and skeptical of whoever this Agent is.
Thank you all for the helpful and realistic replies here.
IVM actually interrupts several pathways used by tumours … do you want to extend your life or your family tree?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/
Covid vaccines switch off tumour protections P53 and till like receptors 7,8
If you think you can manage to outwit the devious intentions of those involved in GOF… think again.. switch back on P53 .. and interrupt those tumour pathways by using checkpoint therapy.
Use your common sense. Some peoples brains have gone rogue round here!
I don’t know who to trust anymore, but there are studies and personal accounts of how ivermectin has helped tremendously with not only parasites, but with other infectious diseases and cancer. I have a small farm and the stuff is miraculous with controlling mites and fleas and ticks. I suffer from chronic Lyme disease so I’m currently taking a 7day course, 5 days off, then another 7. I’m past childbearing age, so maybe I’m not as hesitant as I would have been 10 or so years ago, but that is the only study that is negative. Everything else I’ve seen has been positive.
I'm on your side, and this is what I say . . . What Dr. Yeadon says may be true but someone is going to have to tell me the story of how farmers and veterinarians never figured this out after all these years. For instance here's one science report: "It was concluded that repeated treatment with ivermectin at the recommended dosage of 200 micrograms/kg will not impair the reproductive potential of rams." I'm no expert but it is going to be awhile before all the pieces fit together when you add in this "reproductive damage."
I also feel like “they” would have been pushing this rather than keeping it as a viable solution if it’s so damaging to our reproductive systems. After all, if depopulation is the goal, what could be better? I suppose this could be their long game play to get those of us who are distrusting? I don’t know anymore.
MY won’t ever write it up because it’s wrong. See https://open.substack.com/pub/2ndsmartestguyintheworld/p/ivermectin-is-under-attack-again?r=10r23v&utm_medium=ios
Reverse psychology?
Maybe. Like I said, I don’t know who to trust anymore…but I think that’s kinda the point.
Trust Jesus Christ. I just did a quick search, you can calm down now and take ivermectin as needed. But it is not juice, it is medicine: treat it as such.
Thanks. I’m not excited or needing to calm down, Im just reacting to this article. I respect Dr Yeadon immensely, but he’s not always right. Am I right about this? I don’t know, but I’m willing to take the risk.
Look into game theory and then you'll see why some recognise it as a tactic. Con artists use it all the time when gritting. It gives the illusion of choice, when really your directing a subset population to a particular choice. Right up there with my all time favorite- "nudge theory".😉
One piece of the puzzle is that, even IF ivermectin was helping with the killing agenda, the powers that be could not in a million years say ivermectin was a good thing. Why? Because, if there was an alternative to the "Emergency Use Authorization" of the mRNA jab, the FDA would not have been able to approve the EUA. They had to stamp out ivermectin to keep the illusion and "there was no other way" except the EUA.
The vaccine is a big payout. Ivermectin is in generic form and is one of the cheapest drugs on the market.
The vaccine will also bring them future profits down the line from more health issues.
Not sure if you believe this or not but the vaccine also contains nano communications and abilities to turn on or off genes and other things I forget.
If you don't believe this is possible the CEO of Pfizer did an interview around a year or so ago stating they got FDA approval for a drug you swallow and they can communicate with it and control your health.
Do you by chance have a link to that interview with that psychopath ceo? Thanks
Here you go:
FDA approved it already. Meaning they have had the tech for MANY years as there is testing and optimizing then years for approval process:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wXdlllPg5WgA/
African people have been using IVM for quite a while and they're not struggling with infertility, although they take it every other week.
This is true. Could it be harmful to males?
"Conclusions" in scientific papers are awesome- that's when the authors get to give their opinion on the data😉
I've a friend that when he writes a sci paper often says, "I've never written a conclusion I didn't like".😉🤣😂
Right! Im a retired RN, and the most important lessons I learned? So many of my colleagues are full of sh!t.
Not saying this isn’t a real thing, as we get new info uncovered all the time now, but I do wonder if it’s more a result of long term use…since the people in the regions they regularly gave it to had to use it ongoing. Obviously for the bulk of original so called “high risk” plandemic patients were well past fertility age, so that side effect wouldn’t show up.
Seems it could very well be massive overdosing combined with extremely short range collection of data. The rabbits weren’t studied after the overdosing had time to get out of their systems. The equivalent dose for humans would be about 20 times the average recommended dose, & where is that occurring in the real world?
Please do check out the deeper dive into the studies being used for the claim. It’s worth considering all the information…or perhaps what’s missing.
https://open.substack.com/pub/drtesslawrie/p/is-ivermectin-really-a-genocidal-f19?r=ryfsk&utm_medium=ios
You need to read this, please. https://open.substack.com/pub/drtesslawrie/p/is-ivermectin-really-a-genocidal?r=tx4py&utm_medium=ios
Thanks very much for the link Karen. I cannot afford another subscription now, but glad for the link because I know Dr Lawrie is an appropriate scientist generally and put together the rolling meta review. I hope she will publish in this area more and freely and with CITATIONS please. I’m way past the stage and so many of us are - where a claim of expertise without reviewable citations is credible. It’s bad form and disservice from anyone with reputational worthy bias ability to make claims in arguments without EVIDENCE. It’s not like all the peer reviewed lit is virtuous — we know the shenanigans by the Med complex hooligans — but we cannot dispense with the literature. I do honor personal experience very much and the comments on this board and others regarding their experience. We need both. Dr Yeadon strikes me as a tragic figure and I pray for him. Perhaps his claim is factually correct, but the format of expression is bizarre for a man of science or anyone after 4th grade. So caught up in emotional terms, professing no writing, inpting the worst motives of those who still think the way he did before seeing the light and before he has researched, repeatedly saying he thought this or that without researching the idea — so many histrionic phrases. I am inclined to think this man who has had courage and appropriate science communication previously is at the effect of something DISORDERING. His writing is almost like a guy saying … I’m putting this in a bizarre manner so my audience won’t take me seriously. And I don’t take him seriously. I pray for him. May Dr Yeadon be brought swiftly beneath the wings of The Most High Creator of the Universe for protection and healing. 💜 May we find the truth and protect the fertility of the new generations. key questions for any drugs is whether they disrupt a pregnancy or fetal development — at what stage — to what extent—do they remodel organs or tissue significantly — duration of toxicity. Nice to have the broad suspect class biomarkers for detox stunting but better to have citations and much deeper basis for examining the duration of detox inhibition. A lot of people can be needlessly alarmed by claims that are decontextualized. Warnings need to be contextual or they just pile more stress onto young people that are already struggling.
Dr. Yeadon strikes me as one of the sanest, sincerest and most well-meaning "expert" voices on Substack. But his experiences over the past four years including the way his reputation has been trashed and and his failure—indeed our failure collectively—to reach and persuade significant numbers of our fellow humans of the gravity of the current situation we, and especially we in the West, find ourselves in, may have overstrained him. He may be reading more into this IVM thing than is actually there.
On the other hand, Mike may be substantially correct. He may have found evidence to back up his claims, evidence that most of us aren't aware of. But I for one can't take these claims seriously without strong evidence.
If he is correct about IVM being one more vector in the depopulation agenda, the implications would be that everybody who has been promoting it as a treatment is either a part of the op or else a prize fool. And that would include most of our medical "heroes" from Drs. Zelenko and Kory to Anderson, Chetty, Sucharit Bhakti, and Tess Lawrie, as well as the late-but-well-meaning Dr. John Campbell , who went from jab promoter to vax-skeptic and IVM promoter. It would also include Mike himself, who for a long time was very bullish on IVM. Here he is from 2021.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/why-are-we-being-lied-to-about-covid-theres-no-good-reason/
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Excerpt: Ivermectin is one of the WHO’s ‘essential drugs’ which all countries should have access to. It’s very cheap as its patent has long expired; it’s one of the most-used drugs in world history; it’s extraordinarily safe; it is often life-saving against parasitic infections. It is also one of the best-established pharmaceutical treatments for Covid-19, showing benefit in every stage of the disease, in multiple independent clinical trials of varying quality. On January 3, 2021, Dr Tess Lawrie attempted to alert the Prime Minister to the potential of ivermectin. Her video here was pulled from YouTube within hours of posting, though it survives on Vimeo. The paper by the FLCCC group of US intensivists (whose survival rates for severe Covid-19 are best in class) that was the inspiration for Dr Lawrie’s work was accepted after extensive open peer review (including two career employees of the FDA) and ‘provisionally accepted’ by the ‘open science’ journal Frontiers in Pharmacology. The screenshot of the abstract tweeted by Clare Craig shown here attracted more than 100,000 views. Then, mysteriously, it was rejected and pulled by the Frontiers editor in chief. It is still here in cached form though the Ministry of Truth has been at work and placed it in a memory hole, so no trace survives on Frontiers’ own website.
Intended for a Special Issue on ‘repurposed drugs’ for Covid-19, various guest editors were so incensed at this behaviour that they resigned in protest. You can read their letter here. They concluded that ‘these unfortunate events constitute gross editorial misconduct by Frontiers.’ Fortunately this major paper is now published by the American Journal of Therapeutics and can be read in its final form here.
This nevertheless successfully delayed by nearly six months its circulation to leading public health bodies starting mid-November. A copy was sent to Sir Jeremy Farrar (boss of the Wellcome Trust and member of Sage) who passed it on to Professor Peter Horby (also on Sage), amongst others, on November 18, 2020. So the efficacy of ivermectin must be well known to the Government’s advisers, but they have done nothing about it. Likewise, the formal and rigorous meta-analysis performed by Dr Tess Lawrie’s team at the Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd has been communicated to Matt Hancock, but without reply.
I am telling you about this, because all that governments, their scientific advisers, big pharma (here’s Merck, who originally developed & marketed it) and regulatory agencies will tell you is that ivermectin doesn’t work in Covid-19. They are lying. I am inviting any of them to sue me, but they won’t, for I would win easily.
If ivermectin was more widely used, there’d be no need for vaccines.
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For reference, here is an official view from 2021 in which an FDA spokesperson, Dr. John Farley, was warning people away from IVM for COVID-19 prophylaxis and treatment on the grounds that it hadn't been tested in humans for regular use or in the doses needed to be effective. So Mike's current position seems to be quite close to the FDA's official position in 2021.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zds6m9W3L3w
Ivermectin has saved lives of people I know, I don't think they care if it causes infertility when it's saving their life, it's also a great cancer cure along with Fenbendazole and other things. So I guess its up to the person, you either want to live or make sure you're not infertile when you die.
Beats being dead from going into the hospital and being killed by their protocols.
I just emailed a doctor who said there is no proof in 40 years Ivermectin causes infertility. Mike Yeadon is wrong and think about, Africans and East Indians have been using Ivermectin for years in their countries, theres no shortage of kids there.
Same thing I was thinking...no drop in those populations from taking IVM.
Unfortunately….
Unless they took the Billy Bob Gates with the man boobs super duper vaccines.
You said it! I'm so sorry Dr. Yeadon did not "pre-think" his actions.
Perhaps he's been bought off, or threatened.
Could be. And "threatened" would mean his family too.
He can't be bought, and I doubt he was threatened. Why threaten him after all this time? The IVM cat is well out of the bag now.
I think Mike is just giving his sincere opinion here because he's extremely concerned about this issue. He's had a Saul on the road to Damascus moment and feels the need to share his insights. Surely it's OK to disagree with his opinion without doubting his integrity?
Yep! There are plenty of theories about what is going on but I think Dr. Yeadon has been had. If there was a problem the people who have used it on race horses and farm animals for so many years would have figured it out. Maybe Dr. Pierre Kory will speak about this.
"...No shortages of births there..."
Relative to what? Respectfully, when you look at the fertility and birth rates (including "live" births), you will see that EVERY country has had declining births and fertility, in the last 30-40 years, and especially in the last 20yrs. Even more so in the last 4-5yrs. Yes, traditionally underdeveloped and developing countries have outstripped developed countries in births, hence why in the 1940s it was specifically focused on by the UN cronies. That's why they wanted to focus on women and education.😐🤔🤨 When women are educated and self reliant, financially independent, they may make different choices- especially since TV, social media, show different futures in different countries, and arranged marriages or mutilation practices. Likewise with the men. Look at the history of public health policy, especially around developing/underdeveloped nations.
Btw how did people survive malaria and parasites before Ivermectin came along?🤔🤨 #itsrhetorical #challengeurbeliefsystem #askwhatif #wearemany #wearememory #wewillnotforgive #mistakeswereNOTmade #getlocalised
The covid bioweapon caused low birth rates, not Ivermectin.
Uh, yeah nah sorry, the birth rates and fertility rates were tanking in the developed countries and steadily reducing in the developing and undeveloped countries, long before the C19 shots got distributed. Most replacement rates in developed countries, like Australia, UK, USA, Canada, Japan, Sweden, etc, were at less than 3-
Technically 2.8, that's your minimum needed to maintain a country. In 2019, Australia's was at 2.1.🤔😐 Now I'd hazard a guess that it's 1.8 BTJMO 🤷♀️
You can look at data from all over the world, in all different countries with different development levels, same deal. So when we compare Africa's and India birth/fertility rates to other developed countries it's not apples and oranges. But compare each countries rates to itself since the 1940s, then you see the patterns. We have been systematically poisoned for a long time (by many things), but we just weren't dying fast enough. COVID was just the way to speed up the process to meet the milestones in the 2030-2050 agendas.😉 Ivermectin is just another tool in the population control toolbox.🤐
Don't you think if Ivermectin were causing birth rates to fall someone years ago would have said something, why now, its it because Mike Yeadon or Tim Truth came out and claimed it to be fact, I will never believe it so you can think what you want.
Please do check out the deeper dive into the studies being used for the claim. It’s worth considering all the information…or perhaps what’s missing.
https://open.substack.com/pub/drtesslawrie/p/is-ivermectin-really-a-genocidal-f19?r=ryfsk&utm_medium=ios
Good post!!
How did people survive.....?
That's a very general question. But if you are thinking about Africa, basically in many cases they got sick, lived in miserable poverty, and died much earlier than their theoretical maximum lifespan.
My AI mate tells me: In the 1950s, the average life expectancy in Sub-Saharan Africa was roughly around 40 years. This was influenced by factors such as high infant mortality rates, infectious diseases, and limited access to healthcare.
As of recent estimates, life expectancy in Sub-Saharan Africa has increased significantly and is now approximately 64 years. Improvements in healthcare, nutrition, and living standards have contributed to this rise, although it still varies widely between different countries in the region.
It was a generalised but actually rhetorical question, but I do appreciate you taking the time to answer anyway 😊
Id say access to clean water, went along way to increasing lifespan. In Africa, they have been treating malaria, parasites, river blindness, and all the other stuff Ivermectin is used for, with Artemesia annua (wormwood), for at least a 2000yrs. In fact its been used to formulste the more recent antimalarial darling of the pharmaceutical market and won the 2015 Nobel prize.😉
I'm pretty sure we survived in African nations before 1975, when Ivermectin was discovered.😊
My own thinking on this is that some of us have survived since time immemorial living as hunter gatherers with none of the benefits of agriculture, industrialization, science and technology. I would argue that our ancestors must have all survived long enough to produce their descendants own the generations, because if just one of my countless ancestors hadn't done that, I wouldn't be here, and the same goes for each and every person alive today.
Given this amazing fact, should we then abandon all the benefits of agriculture, industrialization, science and technology, and go back to our original natural hunter-gather lifestyle?
You are welcome to imagine me saying this while sticking my chest out theatrically like a barrister or a good old-fashioned MP. I am taking the argument to extremes, of course. So please don't take me too seriously on the above.
But on the point you make about IVM verses traditional medicines for parasites, Wormwood (Artemisia absinthium) is toxic when taken in large amounts due to the presence of thujone. While small quantities may be safe for some uses (like traditional herbal remedies), excessive consumption can lead to nausea, vomiting, and neurological issues. Wikipedia states that "Thujone is reported to be toxic to brain, kidney, and liver cells and could cause convulsions if used in too high a dose." So it has definite issues.
I am not a specialist, but I assume that IVM has less side-effects, and is less toxic than wormwood overall, and it may also be more effective as an anti-parasitic. I may be wrong about this though. So for the time being I'll just sit on my chair with that sign saying "Ivermectin is safe and effective: prove me wrong."
Yeah, but we haven't seen IVM cause a "died suddenly" like the covid DeathVax.
And we haven't seen IVM cause renal failure like Remdesivir.
Is ivermectin good for anything like parasites
Here is a quick reference for the parasites it is effective against. There are too many overlaps between how veterinarians treat animals and the same remedies go for humans so don't poof-poo this info because it is about horses.
https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=1fd56c44-11ee-4d47-acad-4da867376eee
Why then did Fauci and friends try to make the use of ivermectin and other medications illegal? If Ivermectin is so bad, why would someone that put Remdimisver (kills 56% of patients by destroying the kidneys) into all of the Covid patients not add a little ivermectin to help destroy humanity? Possibly because it works??? Why was it banned from hospitals if this has all been a set up? Could it be that some people have gone off the deep end? I’ve seen firsthand accounts of it taking someone from the edge of death to walking and talking and living again. If ivermectin makes us sterile please explain all the babies born in Africa where ivermectin is used on a bi-weekly basis. 🤷♂️
I usually agree with your assessments but I can’t help but feel that you have become scared of your own shadow and rightfully so in a lot of ways.
I gave my friend some ivermectin so he could treat his 86 year old mom undergoing cancer treatments ivermectin when she came down with Covid. Her husband was sick with it at the same time. He was hospitalized before his son could treat him with ivermectin. He died after suffering in the hospital for days on end. The cancer patient never had to go back to the doctor for Covid. I’m sticking with ivermectin as I have seen it work on multiple occasions. 🤷♂️
My thoughts, too. I'd like to see some population studies re. the African regions where IVM is used regularly, as it has for decades. Many (most? all?) African countries where IVM is used have been seeing population increases, yes? The stuff is used in Nigeria big time, and hit Africa in a big way in the 90's. Nigeria's population growth through the 90's until about 2012 was north of 2.5%, usually 2.7%. It dips after 2012 but is still 2.1%. I've linked the data below. Doesn't look like a region in decline caused by a toxic anti-fertility drug. Note in the graph below on rate of growth that the big dip in fertility rate is BEFORE IVM hits the stage. Of course, this graph does not account for birth rate, etc. just population growth. So take this as a pretty rough starting point!
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/nigeria-population/
There is also the impressive results out of Uttar Pradesh India, from early on in the "pandemic", from administering IVM to their entire population. Other Indian states also. Easily found online.
Yes some 230 Million people live in Utar Pradesh
They used IVM zinc and one other product with great results. I live in WA State we got a letter on Facebook from our Governor about the dangers of IVM. The plan was not to have any cheap generic drugs work on the so called “ novel sars Covid 2
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A perfectly logical summation! I am beginning to think that suddenly some others are benefitting financially from “false information “ about IVM!
What about HCQ? Sixty thousand people were taking HCQ for lupus & rheumatoid arthritis in Northern Italy with zero deaths from Covid & 15 hospital trips with no ventilators.
I would have included HCQ, but couldn’t spell it correctly. 😂
I’m an ex-pharmacist, but it is easier to say “HCQ.”
Interesting, though why was it banned in pharmacies? I would not trust any drug by Pharma. Who's to say that sterility is not in all of them. Also, what percent of the population actually took it compared to the clot shot. Why sterilize when you can actually kill?
Interesting also, that Tennessee has now made IVM available over the counter without a prescription.
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